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    July 25, 2010

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    memsaab

    Wonderful review Carla. I am very glad I watched this with you---am afraid I may not have made it otherwise, it was so depressing. But sometimes depressing is justified, and certainly this is one of those cases...the entire cast was so good, too!

    Virginia Kelley

    I saw this very recently too, at a film festival in NY about Muslim culture in Hindi cinema, so it's especially nice for me to have your thoughts. I see why this is a favorite of so many people I know who grew up in India, it's such a clear, strong piece of work, and Balraj s is so memorable.
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    And I am glad you reminded me of the great use India's Muslim monuments in the context of a hypothetical India emptied of Muslims. I think that that & Granny's staying in her house stayed with me the most.

    Advait

    Wow.. Ive never heard of this film before, but from reading your review it sounds very enticing!

    I will have to have a look around to try and find this dvd..

    carla

    Memsaab - I'm glad we watched it too - but this week I promise to request a nice fun Shammi movie. I was drooling over the songs of both Janwar and Junglee yesterday ...

    Virginia - thanks. The old woman dying in the haveli is one of those wonderful overloaded symbols - both her own clinging to the life she had before Partition, and, in the new Hindu owner's allowing her to return there to die, his recognition that Muslims have a rightful home in India as well. Beautifully rendered.

    Advait - definitely worth tracking down, it's a lovely film.

    Ibirá Machado

    Heeey, I just saw this movie last friday, in the Indian Film Festival we organized here in Sao Paulo. And seeing this kind of movie in the big screen is an absolute privilege! And yes, I liked so much this movie, in all aspects.

    Thanks for your review. Very soon I'll write my own review too :)

    Arjun

    Unfortunately, you will not see a single movie made about Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Jains, Atheists, Jews having a rightful home in Pakistan and Bangladesh. These countries it seems can in actuality be willfully, violently and ruthlessly emptied of non-Muslims without any repercussions or aspersions on the ideology or the people who follow it. Sad indeed, but only for the non-Muslims of the subcontinent. In the meantime, India has a growing population of Muslims - from 10% to 15% since Partition, while the Islamic countries carved out of the subcontinent are more and more Muslim (99.9% from 85% at last count). Quite interesting and heartbreaking to see who Westerners choose to sympathize with..


    Arjun

    >Quite interesting and heartbreaking to see who Westerners choose to
    >sympathize with..

    And I'm referring not just to this blog entry but a general pattern I've observed in interactions with Westerners. No matter, the non-Muslims of the subcontinent will just have to fend for themselves while facing centuries-long holy war.

    carla

    Arjun: As I have never seen a Pakistani or Bangladeshi movie, I will have to take your word on the subject matter they do or do not portray. But I am not writing about Pakistani or Bangladeshi movies - only Hindi movies, and in this particular post, only this one movie and the story it tells.

    With that in mind, speaking not for your monolithic "Westerners", but *only* for myself and the posts on this blog, I strive to sympathize with *anyone* who suffers, who is driven out of their homes, whose life is befallen by tragedy, whatever religion they subscribe to and whatever continent they live on. I'm truly sorry to hear that *you* find that heartbreaking.

    By the way, if you really, really believe that Westerners are unduly sympathetic to Muslims I have to wonder what West you are observing! Certainly not the one I live in, where the majority don't even bother to make such fine distinctions as the difference between Hindu and Muslim, or even between South Asian and Arab, but instead presume that anyone with brown skin and a "foreign-sounding" name is probably both a Muslim and a threat. Your West sounds more nuanced and better than mine.

    Banno

    Lovely review, Carla. I've seen the film long ago, and don't remember it that well, but I remember the images of the house, and the monuments. They evoke a nostalgia and a grief for a way of life, probably lost forever.

    Arjun

    Carla, when sympathy evoked by the decontextualized biased depiction of a tragedy causes you to make a one-sided political statement about the Indian subcontinent, that is what is heartbreaking.

    I like your writing but I'd really prefer that you stick to writing about movies and avoid making political statements about India, a country whose shoes you've never walked in, like the ones you make in your post above. If only people like you and your governments followed the Prime Directive (yes, from Star Trek), anti-Americanism would be a thing of the past in places like India.

    As always, I look forward to your movie reviews sans political statements.

    carla

    Arjun, this strikes me as disingenuous. You are not objecting broadly to my commenting about movies that make political statements about India. Rather, your objection is that my comments express sympathy with a political view that is contrary to your own.

    Your first set of comments was much more honest; there, at least, you admitted that what cheesed you off in particular was my being moved by a pro-Muslim story.

    Regardless of your backhanded compliments, I'll carry on writing about the stories that move me. You call my statements here "one-sided" but that's an absurd criticism; I wrote 800 words on thoughts inspired by *one* movie, not a comprehensive treatise on the political landscape of post-Partition India. There are plenty of stories with different focus from *Garm Hava* that have moved me in other ways; I didn't talk about them here because they aren't what this movie is about.

    I watch Indian movies in part to learn about India, and I've never claimed to have done more than scratch the surface of understanding that rich subject. But I do know for sure that there are many more sides than one to India's long, complex, and continuing story.

    And for that reason, the idea that "people like me" are the problem is America is laughable - truly ridiculous, misguided, laughable. Do you really think America is hated because it has *too many* people who bother to take an interest in learning about some of the world's cultures? I don't think you grasp that the majority of Americans do not even care to learn the first thing about India, or care whether there is any difference between a Hindu and a Muslim, or between an Indian and an Arab.

    raja

    Carla, this is the first time I am visiting your blog. I am a regular at memsaab's.
    I have just finished seeing this movie. Heard from memsaab that you had reviewed it, hence came over to read your review.

    Let me start by saying that it is a very good review of an outstanding movie.

    I remember this movie being released in the early 70s but never got a chance to see it. Having seen it today, I think it is going to stay in my mind for a very long time.

    Yes, the story is a bit depressing (especially the turn of events in the second half) but quite realistic IMO. Partition, although it brought independence, had made Indians bitter. And yes, with Muslims having got their own country, it is not unrealistic to expect the non-Muslims in India to have harboured resentment towards those Muslims who remained in India at that time. Life must have been very tough for these Muslims then - and that is all this story tries to portray.

    I am a Hindu myself (tbh, I have never really cared about being a Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew, whatever) but I can totally see this from the Muslim perspective. It is now 63 years since Partition and lots of things HAVE changed. But at that time, tensions were high, discrimination was rampant, there was resentment and bitterness. And mistrust.

    What I like in particular about this movie (apart from the fabulous acting) is a realistic storyline that discusses sensitive issues without fear.

    The fact that the country's "independence" meant different things to different people. From one day to the next, the tonga guy hikes up his price from 8 annas to two rupees, saying the country is independent now.

    A businessman says "with independence, the time has come for businessmen instead of nawabs".

    There is reference to "everything is good in Pakistan, they are calling you there". Which was not uncommon in those days. Many who did go to Pakistan did well for themselves - they got land and businesses cheap (many had been left behind by those who had moved to India). They then called their relatives back in India to join them. Some did, some did not.

    I found many scenes poignant. The scene where the guy returns from Pakistan to meet his love but gets arrested because he had entered without passport/reporting to the police was touching.

    There are many such scenes. The scene where Salim's sister visits India to buy sarees and then scorns her poor relatives in India was also pretty typical of the time.

    All these emotions are wonderfully captured and portrayed in this movie.

    Plus the games politicians played, how mistrust ruled during those turbulent times, how there were still some good men who rose above religion - all this is neatly woven into the storyline.

    I think it would not be an exaggeration to say that this is one of the most honest movies I have seen. A lot of movies would have tried to be politically correct or glamourise some scenes. This does neither. It stays true to its storyline all the way.

    Wonderful movie. And an excellent review by you. Thanks. :-)

    carla

    Raja, thank you so much for the thoughtful comments and the compliments. They mean a lot to me! I'm very glad to have visitors from among the excellent readers of Memsaab's excellent blog.

    *Garm Hava* has definitely stuck with me and I'm very glad I got the chance to see it. I am always deeply affected by movies that use the lens of a few individuals to tell stories with grander themes - that's one reason I love the movies of Shyam Benegal, and Garm Hava is as rich and compelling to me as any of those.

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