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    September 06, 2007

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    v9y

    अच्छी, संतुलित समीक्षा. बॉम्बे अपनी ख़ामियों को अपनी ठंढक पहुँचाने वाली सिनेमैटोग्राफ़ी, गानों के पिक्चराइजेशन, और बेहतरीन पार्श्वसंगीत से ढँक लेती है.

    जहाँ तक मुझे याद है, फ़िल्म पूरी तरह तमिल में नहीं बनी थी. कुछ कलाकारों (मनीषा समेत) ने अपने संवाद हिंदी में बोले थे जिन्हें बाक़ी संस्करणों के लिए उन भाषाओं में डब किया गया था.

    yves

    Carla,
    What did you think of the last picture of the film, that ring of hands? Was that manipulation for you?

    Gulbahaar

    Mani Ratnam is a master of those little moments, isn't he?

    Meera

    Carla

    Bombay was indeed originally made completely in tamil. The other versions are all dubbed.

    The original tamil version is very interesting indeed. The songs are also much more enjoyable ie original tamil words.

    As for your point about adjustments and compromise necessary in a marriage between people brought up in different cultural set ups - focusing on this would mean the director digressing from the main theme of sectarian violence. I guess in a movie of about 2.5 hrs including songs one can only focus only on some main strands rather than go the whole way.

    Meera

    carla

    v9y - Thanks. I think most films' flaws are exposed on repeat viewing - flaws that are covered up, as you say, by beautiful visuals and music. In the case of *Bombay*, the emotional content touched me so effectively that my critical faculties were pretty much short-circuited on first viewing.

    Yves - I don't know; as I said, critical faculties weren't working all that well. But I don't think manipulation is necessarily a bad thing - all good art, and especially effective cinema, has to manipulate its audience to make sure the audience is feeling certain things at certain times; else the emotional punch would fail.

    Gulbahaar - I agree that the small moment is something Mani Ratnam excels at; unfortunately, in the films I've seen he usually tries to do too much with the big picture and ends up with a confused and muddy product. (See my *Yuva* review - by far the worst of his films I've seen - for more on that.) In *Bombay* he arguably also tries to do too much but he gets away with it, for me, because the emotional hook is just so damn powerful.

    Meera: Of course the film can't do everything - if it did I'd be complaining, as I just said, that it tries to do too much. But the "main theme of sectarian violence" doesn't even come up until the film's last third. All I'm saying is that it could have taken twenty more minutes - even ten - to show us a little more of the couple's domestic adjustments. And at any rate, as I said it was a minor critique of a film I absolutely loved.

    Maajhi

    The movie was good, even though it fell into the standard trap of "happily ever after" that Yves is alluding to. Convinced as I am by history that Islam wherever it prevails, leads to societies that celebrate violence and cruelty (Saudi Arabia, the native speaker of the revealed tongue being a case in point), I feel India could have escaped all it has suffered for ages at the hands of Muslims if it had had a clean partition. Since that didn't happen, mostly thanks for Mr.Gandhi, India will continue to be convulsed by riots, bombings and violence.. should we weep? For a lost cause, it's probably worthless, sigh.

    Akshay Shah

    Wonderful Review here Filmigeek!!! Though not a patch on Rathnam's finest(MOUNA RAAGAM, IRUVAR, NAYAKAN) this is no doubt a fabulous film. Rathnam's presentation (or rather straight forward take) is questioniable at times, though one cannot question whether his heart is in the right place or not. But glad you enjoyed it...Rathnam is a genius! The highlight for me would have to be Rehman's touching TU HI RE!!!!!

    Sanket

    I really enjoyed this movie as well and even though I grew up here in the US & my mother had not even been born when Partition happened - it has been an obsession of mine for many years now. I am a Hindu but my closest friends include Muslims from both India & Pakistan. I for one think that India (with her vast natural resources & industrious people) could have been another Japan. But due to the disastrous results of Partition and it's lingering aftermath - the communal violence will keep the country from ever achieving it's full potential. Pakistan & Bangladesh still go through their own communal violence and arguably are worse off than when they were all part of united India.

    There are no easy solutions but this whole subject is one that is very near & dear to my heart. I highly recommend the book 'Freedom at Midnight' (out of print but easily available online) for any persons of South Asian heritage or just simply anyone interested in the fascinating yet heartbreaking story of how Partition came to be.

    Amit

    I never quite got into this movie, as I found the perfect marriage of a Hindu and a Muslim without any conflicts whatsoever, or any attempts at adjustments in their daily lives totally unbelievable and divorced from reality. If both of them were presented as people who weren't religious at all to start with, it would have been fine. A little too sentimental and forced "messagy" for my tastes.

    Maajhi

    Sanket, India's trajectory compared to Japan's has much much more to do with the development model adopted, US financial and social involvement in Japan's rebuilding, and India's general fear of foreign trade after the British experience. Partition was irrelevant in this regard, at least in most of India. I have no hope for India either given than no country that Islam has laid its eyes on can ever hope to rest in peace until all its inhabitants are converted. The term "bloody borders of Islam" illustrate the global political situations perfectly, whether it's Chechnya, India, Thailand, Bosnia, Sudan, what-have-you. One side is, you guessed it, Muslim bent upon spreading Islam by the sword. I don't think all Muslims are like this of course, but the net effect of Muslim presence in your country does end up in this. I see India bloodied by conflicts, non-Muslims persecuted or driven out (Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kashmir are just the beginning) for time to come immemorial.. It's sad, but mark my words, it's true.


    Maajhi

    BTW, sorry I know my political views are considered controversial (even though they're very logically derived) and I don't want to spoil poor Carla's blog with them since they're irrelevant here. But this review just caused me to bring them up here. I will shut up now :).

    carla

    Maajhi, I want to thank you for that last sentence, because I've been trying to think of a nice way to ask everyone to please leave this topic behind.

    There are many, many forums in which the issues you've raised have been debated; I have no interest in having this be one of them. As much as I value the thoughtful comments that everyone leaves here, I just don't have the ability or the inclination to moderate talk on controversial and emotional topics.

    I realize it's hard to write about films like *Bombay* without raising difficult issues. But I'm just not prepared to host this particular debate.

    Lalita

    When I think Roja and Bombay, I think Mani's kaleidoscopic take on movie-making. His movies are nothing, if not immensely panoramic. Not just in the visual sense, but in the sense of capturing just so many emotions. Photo-ops of life. Great review.

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